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known to physics which is completely

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entropic in terms of its understanding

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this will be an anti entropic effect

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which is very demonstrable and I hope

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gin gets a chance to present his

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information here because as I examine it

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look very bulletproof I know what you

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mean but I think that it was the best

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way of describing these kinds of

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phenomena at the time that is the

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attempt was to in correct me if I'm

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wrong was to be able to speak to those

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of us who are entrained in mechanistic

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physics as most of us are in some kind

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of way that would make sense I don't

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know whether it's whether it has to be

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called physical reality at all fact is

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that there is some substrate something

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underlying yeah and it's long

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electromagnetic we know that from all

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the experiments you know in tension just

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moves in ways that cannot be explained I

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suggested you speak to the authors of

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this model they're here you ask them

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your study take over an accumulator and

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building some study with inducing

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inflammatory response as

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a potential treatment for cancer

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reminded me of the Cooley tact Coley's

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toxins that was used in the early 1900s

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to treat cancer in which he tried to

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stimulate an immune response through the

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introduction of bacteria and I was

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wondering what your thoughts were on

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that or if you looked into those studies

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to see if there were as any a

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correlation between inducing

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immunization even the immune response

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and uh inducing inflammation of his work

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and I haven't examined it but you know

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there's no question that if you want to

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heal something you have to induce an